there is no foreign policy that is made at the state department anymore. this is all owned inside the white house, inside the oval office. even folks on the national security council are cut out of the making of foreign policy. jon: let's talk a little bit about hillary clinton and her testimony yesterday. you have suggested that some of the senators, some of the members of congress who were questioning her sort of missed the point. >> well, there were -- the poor woman, she did do a full day up on capitol hill, and she was certainly very well prepared. the problem was she wasn't well prepared to talk about what happened. she was more well prepared to talk about the aftermath. and, of course, we all know what the aftermath is. what we want to know is how did the administration let this happen, why did the president of the united states and mrs. clinton and u.n. ambassador susan rice and the white house spokesman carney all lie to the american people for a week about the fact that this attack was caused in libya by some movie? jon: well, and when she, you k